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CO2 emissions,
flux, solubility, oceanic scale, and biosequestration
Discussion at the Forum CO2
and oceans - let's get the science right
Introduction
IMHO, to let go the current crazy science, people need to
be able to grasp comfortably what actually *happens* to manmade
CO2. Otherwise they will still have a sneaky suspicion that
the CO2 is building up somewhere... perhaps causing devastating
acidification to the oceans... when the only thing that's
building up is the bad science and the ignorance of freely-available
good science.
CO2 - the basic figures:
Factors in the CO2 flux
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In addition to the effects of Sun and ocean currents,
we have to understand the factors at work in the huge
annual CO2 flux, which dwarfs our emissions by a factor
of 15 or so. I've drawn the vertical cross-section
with exaggeration at the sea surface (waves) where
most of the changes happen.
- By Henry's Law, 49/50th of our CO2 emissions would be
absorbed by the oceans, if other things were equal.
Henry's Law says that CO2 at standard temp and pressure
will find its equilibrium with 49 parts dissolved
in the oceans to 1 part in the atmosphere
- In this case, even after 50 years of emissions,
the overall increase would only be what we actually
see annually, aroung 8Gt, which is still only a tiny
fraction of the 700 Gt CO2 in the atmosphere. Doubling
the CO2 concentration would take 50 x 700 / 8 years,
say 4500 years at the present rate of emissions.
- Many excellent studies show (see Segalstad)
that CO2 only stays in the air around 5 years. No
study shows a longer "life span" than 12
years.
- The fact that the annual increase is 50
times what we might expect from our emissions by Henry's
Law, warns us that another factor may be at work.
- BUT, although the oceans are far more surface
than depth, when we take a vertical cross-section,
we only see a small "surface effect". So
it may take time for Henry's Law to work. But how
long?
CO2 theoretically expelled - for 1 deg C sea surface
temperature rise - How many gigatons CO2 will the
ocean outgas for 1ºC rise in satellite-measured
Sea Surface Temp? From Endersbee (below) we know the
actual rise in CO2 ppm (divide the weight in gigatons
by 2 to get the approx. concentration ppm). In what
proportions is the difference between the total theoretical
outgassing as per Henry's Law (if the whole ocean temp
rose 1ºC), and the ppm "pressure" level
actually measured, due to
- (a) only the sea surface exchanging CO2 quickly
as per Henry's Law, the rest being much slower (inertia
of water - vertical effect - is there an "equivalent
depth" describing full rapid mixing?)
- (b) sea surface only (or rather, an "equivalent
depth") warming 1ºC?
- (c) sequestration by plants and marine animals (calcifying
processes) before extra CO2 can effectively get included
in the ppm figure (is the ppm a proxy for "pressure
due to SST" rather than an absolute amount?)
- (d) rising anthropogenic CO2 emissions?
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The oceans are predominantly area - but remember
the cross-section to determine what happens at
each level

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- Carbon isotopes: 14C, 13C and 12C measurements
all seem to support NATURAL CO2 (from Segalstad).
- IPCC neglect Henry's Law and the biosphere. They
have tried to fudge the data, starting with Bolin's
"buffer", going on to multiply the well-known
CO2 atmospheric lifetime by a factor of 10 or so,
then to partition off our emissions from the natural
CO2 when needed to get the right isotope figures,
and to mix it all up when otherwise needed.
- Floor
Anthoni has brought to light a very important
concept: that, in the biosphere, CO2 levels represent
not QUANTITY but PRESSURE... "pressure"
encourages the plants to grow more (which they like
and we want)... a rising CO2 level must also take
account of a higher rate of biosequestration which
lessens the rise of the atmospheric CO2 level.
- The biosphere flux is essential to factor in, as
a homeostatic regulator - as happens with volcanic
CO2, natural CO2 vents, and CO2 dissolved from minerals
- otherwise the earth would lose the carbon needed
to support life in marine CaCO3 deposition.
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CO2
and Temperature
Elements of the science. Correlation alone
does not prove Causation.
The total release of CO2 for 1 deg C
SST rise would be calculable from the solubility change,
if we can "guesstimate" what depth of ocean
effectively partakes in this SST change, and therefore
what global volume of water we have to start from, to
calculate the CO2 actually released by overall SST rise
of 1ºC, before biosequestration. There's a useful
new word!
CO2 solubility by proportion of mass at atmospheric
pressure, is approx. 0.28% @ 5ºC; 0.23% @ 10ºC;
0.20% @ 15ºC.
CO2 solubility change per degC (sink/outgassing
power) - Here we have the solubility of CO2
in pure water. If you measure the slope of these graphs,
this yields a solubility change per degree Centigrade
of approx. 3.9% @ 5ºC; 3.45% @ 10ºC; 3.0%
@ 15ºC. Salinity only makes a small difference
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Getting the scale of CO2 in oceans
Ocean area is 360,000,000 sq km = 360 x 10^12
sq metres
Mass: 1 gigatonne (Gt) = 10^9 tonnes
= 10^12 kg = 10^12 m^3 water
Volume of oceans to 3m depth = 360
x 3 x 10^12 m^3 ie approx. 10^15 m^3
Mass of oceans to 3m depth = 10^15 / 10^9 Gt
= 10^6 Gt
CO2 dissolved to 3m at 15ºC = 10^6 x 0.2/100
Gt = 2,000 Gt
CO2 outgassed for 0.1ºC temp rise = 2,000
x 0.3/100 Gt = 6 Gt ie one year's emissions
CO2 outgassed from 30m
depth for 1ºC global temp rise = 600 Gt ie near-total
atmospheric content
IMHO, this scale easily explains
the "jagged" CO2 rise (below) compared with
the smooth emissions curve - the jagged line is hardly
jagged at all in the context of the total flux.
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Which Leads the other? Temp or CO2?
Referring mainly to Segalstad,
I believe that the CO2 rise is ALMOST ALL due to the
sun on the oceans.
Josh
Hall shows CO2 follows SST with hardly any correlation
in reverse. Since the Greenhouse Gas effect supposedly
reached near-maximum at concentrations even lower than
we started with, the lack of correlation with CO2 "driving"
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Rising CO2 - from Sea Surface Temp, or from
our Emissions?
Check out the core
science in my primer.
Look at Endersbee's original
piece. Together with the work of Josh Hall
and Segalstad, Endersbee seems crucial in pinpointing
sea surface temp as a likely originator of CO2 levels.
This very high level of correlation seems highly unlikely
unless it is because of causation. But the amount of
smoothing is very high, the overall period being only
a few years more than the 21-year moving average - this
lowers the confidence we can put in this result.
AND HERE'S Another SPANNER IN THE WORKS!
Mauna Loa CO2 levels seem to fit our rising emissions
closely as well!
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Black Curve:
Seasonally adjusted monthly average atmospheric carbon
dioxide concentration versus time at Mauna Loa Observatory,
Hawaii (20°N, 156°W) where CO2 concentration
is in parts per million in the mole fraction (p.p.m.).
The line through the dots is a spline fit to the data.
Red Curve: Fossil fuel
trend of a fixed fraction (57%) of the cumulative industrial
emissions of CO2 from fossil fuel combustion and cement
production. This fraction was calculated from a least
squares fit of the fossil fuel trend to the observation
record ranging from 1958 through 2006.
r is not indicated but is would seem to be very high.
Engelbeen's graph of annual increases show a very rugged
air CO2 increase alongside a very smooth human CO2 increase
- does this indicate nothing more than a coincidence
of scale? |
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Which (if ANY) graph proves
the true cause of CO2 rise???
If you measure Endersbee's SST slope, it shows 150ppm
(300 Gt) actual CO2 rise per degC SST rise
(at 15ºC). But this figure, although it represents
over a third of all atmospheric CO2, is still only a
fraction of the huge outgassing one would expect from
Henry's Law, if even a small depth of the oceans' temp.
rose by 1ºC. |
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Popular errors &
misconceptions
If people know that all the extra CO2 is beneficial
to plants and sea life, and totally follows temperature,
and causes no appreciable extra greenhouse effect, the whole
AGW nonsense falls apart, and the link between rising CO2
levels and human contributions doesn't even matter. But it
would be nice to know.
We need to show these bio-physical dynamic fluxes clearly
enough and provably enough, as well as show that the manmade
figures just do not compute. It's not just a dynamic balance
in the physics, it also involves the biosphere. The natural
flux figures are so large as to shout out this possibility
- but people behind computers forget the awesome size and
power of the oceans and the biosphere.
Is there ANY temp-amplifying feedback from CO2 increase?
No!
ha! got a clincher, bluster! at RealClimate:What
does the lag of CO2 behind temperature in ice cores tell
us about global warming? |
People forget the oceans in the CO2 annual flux
- Greenpeace omits them. See above. |
This is an issue that is often misunderstood
in the public sphere and media, so it is worth spending
some time to explain it and clarify it. At least three
careful ice core studies have shown that CO2 starts
to rise about 800 years (600-1000 years) after Antarctic
temperature during glacial terminations. These terminations
are pronounced warming periods that mark the ends of
the ice ages that happen every 100,000 years or so.
Does this prove that CO2 doesn't cause global warming?
The answer is no.
The reason has to do with the fact that the warmings
take about 5000 years to be complete. The lag is only
800 years. All that the lag shows is that CO2 did not
cause the first 800 years of warming, out of the 5000
year trend. The other 4200 years of warming
could in fact have been caused by CO2, as far
as we can tell from this ice core data...
and that is as far as the proof seems to go... |
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Updated 10th November 2008
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