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Global Warming - the facts... (trying to be fair!)

Clinching Pictures - apparently...

             

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) used this graph as part of its key information. The sudden rise of the global mean temperature in the 20th century, causing the "hockey stick" effect after at least ten centuries of falling temperatures, seems undeniable. The effect from 1995 to 2004 is visible worldwide.

 

...however, 1998-2008 shows a very different picture...

This chart spanning ten years from 1998 t9 2008 shows global temperature fluctuations (violet - Hadley Climate Research Unit; blue - troposphere) and steadily increasing carbon dioxide levels (green-CO2). Global warming has if anything dropped over the past ten years despite steadily rising CO2:

Here, there is zero correlation between temperature and CO2:

This seems to challenge the CO2-temperature link of the last 25 years.

"MSU" = Microwave Sounding Unit - http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/msu.html
"HadCRUT3v" = Hadley Climate Research Unit Temperature, version 3, variance adjusted -
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
Carbon Dioxide levels based on Mauna Loa: http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/
 
...so how does this fit the IPCC evidence...? The end of the "hockey stick"...
 

As we investigated here, here, here, here, etc we discovered evidence that Michael Mann's famous "hockey stick", key evidence used by IPCC, has been discredited. Then we found more evidence that still seemed to be using it. How tiresome. The chart shows a stable climate for a thousand years followed by a dramatic increase in the 20th century. It appears that the maths used could make a hockey stick out of anything. The raw data and algorithms were hidden from public and scientific scrutiny for almost a decade, an act that should have disqualified his work from serious consideration among scientists. Now the hiding of key data is suspected here as well.

The second picture is the second piece of key evidence used by IPCC. Now if we ignore the red/blue colouring and the arbitrary zero line, we may notice anomalous evidence that doesn't seem to fit the IPCC picture...

...serious global warming started from a low point in 1905 or so, and until 1940 warmed more quickly than in the post-1975 period. What caused that huge earlier quantity of warming? - it was certainly not CO2... And what caused the 1940-1970 cooling? Could there be major unrecognized natural causes here?

To explore this idea, read on below. Or to continue checking evidence, go here and here to investigate evidence challenging AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming)... Quantities of challenging evidence is there to be "mined" in the blogs and in the readers' responses on the pages of Climate Audit and Watts Up with That and ICECAP... Go to RealClimate to hear the "consensus" position... and go here to read the consensus' discussions over the classic skeptics' arguments...

 

H'm, perhaps a changing Sun might be causing the changes... but... Total Solar Irradiance does not match temperature rise in the first graph... yet it does in the second...
        

First graph by John Cook "I created the graph myself from TSI data emailed to me from Sami Solanki (co-author of Usoskin 2005)..."
Second graph from Solar Changes and the ClimateSceptical Science says of it "They use a graph for TSI from a 1997 book by Hoyt Schatten... it contradicts sunspot numbers & satellite measurements..." but Solar Changes has other compelling evidence not mentioned by Sceptical Science...

...This makes one wonder, are there potentially significant solar effects to research further...? even if, at this point, there are only clues that don't quite fit... yet...

...Solar Changes and the Climate shows clear, graphic evidence that INcrease of solar magnetic flux DEcreases the ability of cosmic rays to penetrate the earth's atmosphere; this DEcreases low cloud formation which INcreases warming... over the last 100 years, solar magnetic flux increased 230% ... but it has plateau'd at present... Also, solar cycle no. 24 is retarded and hasn't yet appeared... this last happened 400 years ago, before the Little Ice Age of the 1600's...

Peter Taylor writes in the Introduction to his Climate Science Review: There is significant uncertainty and debate within scientific circles on how much of the changes can be ascribed to natural factors, with some important recent research implicating long-term solar cycles of electro-magnetic activity, and satellite data showing that over the period of warming there has been an increase in short-wave visible light from the sun reaching the earth’s surface. Monitoring data show that this radiation is more than enough to explain current temperatures. These factors are not predicted by the climate models for carbon dioxide...

The standard ‘consensus’ hypothesis is that rising levels of carbon dioxide are trapping outgoing long-wave radiation and thus adding more energy to the earth’s climate system... however, new data shows that solar energy cycles of both visible and UV light, as well as the coupling of the solar and geomagnetic field are also correlated with past climate cycles, and that a very unusual state of solar flux has built up over precisely the same time period as the carbon build-up... Solar magnetic fields have risen by 230% [over the last century] and the latest science, published long after the UN’s intergovernmental panel nailed its colours to the CO2 hypothesis, shows that rise has a potential to influence cloud cover – a far more potent causal factor than greenhouse gases...

There are other significant areas of uncertainty – on cloud cover data, radiation flux levels to the surface, ocean heating, Arctic amplification, and the past and future activity levels of the sun – areas where there is quite definitely a lack of consensus in the scientific community. On several of these key issues, this lack of consensus appears in the technical sections of the IPCC’s Fourth Report in 2007 – and on some issues, such as ocean warming where there is serious recent debate, the issue is not covered because the IPCC did not update its review on this particular field. In contrast, when a single paper appeared in 2007 that challenged the analysis [doubted the effect on climate] of solar magnetic flux, this paper was included and given great weight.

Peter Taylor has worked with governmental advisory bodies as well as with organizations such as Greenpeace. He is a scientist with a track record for picking up early warning signs of global issues needing serious attention. He is aware that the attention given to consensus Climate Science can easily eclipse the far more serious issues of Peak Oil, of building social and personal resilience generally to a future that will be tough otherwise, and of seeing the dangers inherent in our whole present political and economic paradigm of growth. This well-argued work deserves widespread study. Peter Taylor's website is at http://www.ethos-uk.com where you can download his Climate Science Review.

Peter Taylor might sound like one of the "tiny number" of scientists that Al Gore calls the "kooks or crooks" who don't agree with the "consensus". Well, here is a book and here are stories and lists of a great many extremely able scientists at the tops of their profession, who also doubt the "consensus" view of global warming, or even that there is any consensus.

Climate Change Debate:
"Scientific Consensus"
"alarmists" speak with "Sceptics" "deniers"

Various websites "debunking the skeptics"

* UK Meteorological Office:Climate Change Myths
* New Scientist: Climate Change: A guide for the perplexed
* Royal Society: Climate Change controversies
* RealClimate: Responses to common contrarian arguments - Index of their posts
* Natural Environment Research Council (UK): Summary of the debate
* Union of Concerned Scientists - Past, Present, and Future Temperatures: the Hockeystick FAQ
* Scholars and Rogues A Thorough Debunking

"How to answer a Climate Change Skeptic" - supposedly

Stages of Denial There's Nothing Happening, We Don't Know Why it's Happening, Climate Change is Natural / Not Bad / Can't Be Stopped
Scientific Topics Temp, Atmosphere, Extreme Events, Cryosphere, Oceans, Modelling, Climate Forcings, Palaeo-Climate, Scientific Process
Types of Argument Uninformed, Misinformed, Cherry Picking, Urban Myths, FUD (Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt) Non-scientific, Crackpottery
Levels of Sophistication Silly, Naive, Specious, Scientific.

Skeptical Science - perhaps the best debate, with input from both "consensus" and sceptics.

List of skeptics' arguments by frequency of use
01 It's the sun
02 Climate's changed before
03 There is no consensus
04 Surface temp is unreliable
05 Models are unreliable
06 It's cooling
07 Ice age predicted in the 70's
08 Al Gore got it wrong
09 CO2 lags temperature
10 We're heading into an ice age
11 Antarctica is cooling/gaining ice
12 Global warming is good
13 It hasn't warmed since 1998
14 Hurricanes aren't linked to global warming
15 Mars is warming
16 1934 - hottest year on record
17 It's cosmic rays
18 It's freaking cold!
19 It's Urban Heat Island effect
20 Other planets are warming
21 Greenland was green
22 Hockey stick debunked
23 Water vapor is the most powerful greenhouse gas
24 We're coming out of an ice age
25 Mt. Kilimanjaro's ice loss is due to land use
26 It cooled mid-century
27 It warmed before 1940 when CO2 was low
28 Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions
29 Satellites show no warming in the troposphere
30 Climate sensitivity is low
31 Glaciers are growing
Oceans are cooling
33 Greenland is cooler/gaining ice
34 There is no empirical evidence
35 Neptune is warming
36 Scientists can't even predict the weather
37 Jupiter is warming
38 Less than half of published scientists endorse global warming
39 It's aerosols
40 It's the ocean
CO2 measurements are suspect
42 It's Pacific Decadal Oscillation
43 It's volcanoes (or lack thereof)
44 It's methane
45 It's Solar Cycle Length
46 Naomi Oreskes' study on consensus was flawed
47 Solar cycles cause global warming
48 Water levels correlate with sunspots
49 The sun is getting hotter
50 It's the ozone layer

For someone who persists, see what Climate Progress have to say

Hidden connections are "exposed" at Sourcewatch - but are they even remotely correct? Go with great care.

Originally I was only aware of all the evidence countering all the classic sceptics' arguments... I've now found good and bad science, with courtesy and rudeness, on both sides; many key pieces of evidence I'd taken as "proven" or "agreed" appear to be neither proven nor agreed. However, for my full uptodate story, and tutorial on "true climate science" read this

 

May 2008: We've left the following sections as far as possible as originally written, so that people can follow something of our own journey of "threading the labyrinth" of climate evidence, and read through the essential evidence of all points of view. The Arctic has been melting disturbingly fast at times, though there are signs that this could be reversing, and evidence that this melt has happened before, in historical times and possibly even in the early twentieth century eg Paper Tiger @ 20.15 on 20/03/08 (you can disbelieve the Vinland map and 1421 but you cannot ignore Dr Schlederman in the New York Times). Why the Arctic ice has continued to melt, despite no recent overall warming, is examined in Taylor's Review.

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Sea Level Rise could be way beyond IPCC figures

[IF global temperatures rise further? also see expert on sea levels]

The Big Melt and Climate Code Red: evidence, collected by Carbon Equity in 2007 from several scientific studies, including the Hansen Report (Hansen is Head of NASA Goddard Space Institute), shows the ice melting far faster than predicted by IPCC. Increased earthquakes suggest the slip rate is accelerating, and there is evidence of meltwater "lubricating" the slip. If Greenland's land ice sheet slips into the sea, global sea level would rise 7 metres or so.

West Antarctica, with its base under sea level, is also vulnerable to slip, in which case the sea levels would rise by another 7-8 metres. The US Geological Survey say "Most of the current global land ice mass is located in the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets. Complete melting of these ice sheets could lead to a sea-level rise of about 80 meters, whereas melting of all other glaciers could lead to a sea-level rise of only 1/2 meter." See USGS here too.
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We encourage everyone to do their own research. Check the links at the top of the page...

Check the figures. Antarctica is 14,000,000 sq km; Greenland about 2,000,000 sq km with ice sheet up to 3 km thick. Water covers 70% of the globe. The Earth's radius is 10,000 km. Increase in sea level is 3.03 mm/year and probably accelerating. Formula for the surface of a sphere is A = 4pi R² = 4 x 3.142 x R². Enlargement of ice over water is 125%.

"Reading a scientific paper on the train this weekend, I found, to my amazement, that my hands were shaking. This has never happened to me before, but nor have I ever read anything like it. Published by a team led by James Hansen at Nasa, it suggests that the grim reports issued by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change could be absurdly optimistic" - George Monbiot

 

Huge sea level rises are coming
– unless we act now.

Professor James Hansen, Head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York.
New Scientist 25 July 2007

- but, please, check first with a
world expert on sea level rise

I find it almost inconceivable that "business as usual" climate change will not result in a rise in sea level measured in metres within a century.

While the growth of great ice sheets takes millennia, the disintegration of ice sheets is a wet process that can proceed rapidly.

Once well under way, such a collapse might be impossible to stop, because there are multiple positive feedbacks. In my opinion, if the world warms by 2 °C to 3 °C, such massive sea level rise is inevitable, and a substantial fraction of the rise would occur within a century.

Business-as-usual global warming would almost surely send the planet beyond a tipping point, guaranteeing a disastrous degree of sea level rise. There is not a sufficiently widespread appreciation of the implications of putting back into the air a large fraction of the carbon stored in the ground over epochs of geologic time. The climate forcing caused by these greenhouse gases would dwarf the climate forcing for any time in the past several hundred thousand years.

Models based on the business-as-usual scenarios of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predict a global warming of at least 3 °C by the end of this century. What many people do not realise is that these models generally include only fast feedback processes: changes in sea ice, clouds, water vapour and aerosols. Actual global warming would be greater as slow feedbacks come into play: increased vegetation at high latitudes, ice sheet shrinkage and further greenhouse gas emissions from the land and sea in response to global warming.

The IPCC's latest projection for sea level rise this century is 18 to 59 centimetres. Though it explicitly notes that it was unable to include possible dynamical responses of the ice sheets in its calculations, the provision of such specific numbers encourages a predictable public belief that the projected sea level change is moderate.

However, if these IPCC numbers are taken as predictions of actual sea level rise, as they have been by the public, they imply that the ice sheets can miraculously survive a business-as-usual climate forcing assault for a millennium or longer.

However, about 14,000 years ago, sea level rose approximately 20 metres in 400 years, or about 1 metre every 20 years.

  

There is growing evidence that the global warming already under way could bring a comparably rapid rise in sea level. This planetary energy imbalance is sufficient to melt ice corresponding to 1 metre of sea level rise per decade, if the extra energy were used entirely for that purpose - and the energy imbalance could double if emissions keep growing.

Most of the resulting meltwater burrows through the ice sheet, lubricating its base and speeding up the discharge of icebergs to the ocean.

Ocean warming and thus melting of ice shelves will continue even if CO2 levels are stabilised, because the ocean response time is long and the temperature at depth is far from equilibrium for current forcing. Ice sheets also have inertia and are far from equilibrium. There is also inertia in human systems: even if it is decided that changes must be made, it may take decades to replace infrastructure.

Such scenarios require almost immediate changes to get energy and greenhouse gas emissions onto a fundamentally different path.

There is enough information now, in my opinion, to make it a near certainty that business-as-usual scenarios will lead to disastrous multi-metre sea level rise on the century time scale.

If sea level rises by 5 metres...

Viewed from space, Earth will not look that different: there will be surprisingly little loss of land. The trouble is, there are an awful lot of people on the land that will go.

While a mere 2 per cent of the world's land is less than 10 metres above the mid-tide sea level, it is home to 10% of the world's population – 630 million and counting - and much valuable property and vital infrastructure.

Without mega-engineering projects to protect them, a 5-metre rise would inundate large parts of many cities - including London, New York, Sydney, Vancouver, Mumbai and Tokyo - and leave surrounding areas vulnerable to storm surges. In Florida, Louisiana, the Netherlands, Bangladesh and elsewhere, whole regions and cities may vanish. China's economic powerhouse, Shanghai, has an average elevation of just 4 metres.

The Stern Report warned that climate change could mean up to a fifth of global wealth might be lost. A 5-metre rise in sea level would make the impact far greater. Worst of all, the sea may keep rising.

This summary is based on a report which in turn was based on a paper in the open-access journal Environmental Research Letters (DOI: 10.1088/1748-9326/2/2/024002) New Scientist magazine, 25 July 2007

 

The Single Most Depressing Thing I Have Ever Read - from Rob Hopkins

The Big Melt (Carbon Equity, Oct 2007) is a review of scientific studies of the melting polar ice in 2007, which suggest that the IPCC report is far too conservative, and adds enormous urgency to the need to lower atmospheric carbon dioxide and drastically reduce our burning of timber and fossil fuels. The Big Melt argues that to speak of 2 degrees being a safe threshold is nonsense, that we haven’t yet reached 1 degree, but already the Arctic ice is melting 100 years ahead of when the IPCC predicted it would. "Hansen, the Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Science, and one of the world's most eminent climate scientists, says we must "begin to move our energy systems in a fundamentally different direction within about a decade, or we will have pushed the planet past a tipping point beyond which it will be impossible to avoid far-ranging undesirable consequences"..

But balance this with other accounts here, here, here, and here

Global warming of two to three degrees above the present temperature, Hansen warns, would produce a planet without Arctic sea ice, a super-drought in the American west, southern Europe, the Middle East and parts of Africa, and a catastrophic sea level rise which could be over 20 metres (see above). The incongruity of the IPCC’s sea-level projection for 2100 can be seen in the figure below which illustrates mean global temperature and sea level (relative to today) at different times in earth’s history, and the IPCC projection for 2100 (blue outline circle). "Such a scenario threatens even greater calamity, because it could unleash positive feedbacks such as melting of frozen methane in the Arctic, as occurred 55 million years ago, when more than ninety per cent of species on Earth went extinct" (Hansen, 2006b)."

Its other key findings from its executive summary are:

• Climate change impacts are happening at lower temperature increases and more quickly than projected.
• The Arctic’s floating sea ice is headed towards rapid summer disintegration as early as 2013, a century ahead of the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projections.
• The rapid loss of Arctic sea ice will speed up the disintegration of the Greenland ice sheet, and a rise in sea levels by as much as 5 metres or more by the turn of this century is possible.
• The Antarctic ice shelf reacts far more sensitively to warming temperatures than previously believed.
• Long-term climate sensitivity (including “slow” feedbacks

  

such as carbon cycle feedbacks which are starting to operate) may be double the IPCC standard.
• A doubling of climate sensitivity would mean we passed the widely accepted 2°C threshold of “dangerous anthropogenic interference” with the climate four decades ago, and would require us to find the means to engineer a rapid drawdown of current atmospheric greenhouse gas.
• Carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions are now growing more rapidly than the most pessimistic of the IPCC scenarios.
• Temperatures are now within ˜1°C of the maximum temperature of the past million years.
• We must choose targets and take actions that can actually solve the problem in a timely manner.
• The object of policy-relevant advice must be to avoid unacceptable outcomes and seemingly extreme or alarming possibilities, not to determine just the apparently most likely outcome.
• The 2°C warming cap is a political compromise; with the speed of change now in the climate system and the positive feedbacks that 2°C will trigger, it looms for perhaps billions of people and millions of species as a death sentence.
• To allow the reestablishment and long-term security of the Arctic summer sea ice it is likely to be necessary to bring global warming back to a level at or below 0.5°C (a long-term precautionary warming cap) and for the level of atmospheric greenhouse gases at equilibrium to be brought down to or below a long-term precautionary cap of 320 ppm CO2e.
• The IPCC suffers from a scientific reticence and in many key areas the IPCC process has been so deficient as to be an unreliable and dangerously misleading basis for policy-making.

 

Arctic summers ice-free 'by 2013'

[really? check data here and here]

The latest modelling studies by Californian Professor W. Maslowski indicate that summer Arctic sea ice could disappear within 5-6 years. This does not take account of summer melting this year which reduced the ice cover to the smallest
ever extent in modern times. This stunning low point was not even incorporated into the model. "So you can argue that our projection of 2013 is already too conservative," Maslowski explained to the BBC. Other teams have variously produced dates for an open summer ocean that, broadly speaking, go out from about 2040 to 2100.

But it is has become apparent in recent years that the real, observed rate of summer ice melting is now starting to run well ahead of the models.

Professor Peter Wadhams from Cambridge University, UK, is an expert on Arctic ice. He has used sonar data collected by Royal Navy submarines to show that the volume loss is outstripping even area withdrawal, which is in agreement with the model result of Professor Maslowski.

  

"The ice is thinning faster than it is shrinking; and some modellers have been assuming the ice was a rather thick slab.

He cited the ice-albedo feedback effect in which open water receives more solar radiation, which in turn leads to additional warming and further melting.

"In the end, it will just melt away quite suddenly. It might not be as early as 2013 but it will be soon, much earlier than 2040."

Former US Vice President Al Gore cited Professor Maslowski's analysis on Monday in his acceptance speech at the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony in Oslo.

APPENDIX 3 to A Vision for Somerset as a Sustainable Community (South Somerset Climate Action)

Jonathan.Amos-INTERNET@bbc.co.uk
Jonathan Amos, Science reporter,
BBC News, San Francisco
12 December 2007
Abbreviated from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7139797.stm

 

Scientists identify 'tipping points' of climate change
Independent – 5 Feb 2008

[but check here to question the science behind the "scare stories" of tipping-points. Dr Spencer was a scientist with NASA but left because he disliked NASA's hype and degradation of science.]

The Earth could be tipped into a potentially dangerous state that could last for many centuries if global average temperatures continue to rise.

"Society may be lulled into a false sense of security by smooth projections of global change,” scientists report in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

They describe “tipping points,” where a small increase could trigger a disproportionately larger change in the future and global warming could run out of control.

“It is still possible to avoid them with cuts in greenhouse gases,” said Professor Lenton of the University of East Anglia, who led the study.

Irreversible dramatic changes that could occur within the next 100 years.

* Arctic sea ice: some scientists believe that the tipping point for the total loss of summer sea ice is imminent.

* Greenland ice sheet: total melting could take 300 years or more but the tipping point that could see irreversible change might occur within 50 years.

  

* West Antarctic ice sheet: scientists believe it could unexpectedly collapse if it slips into the sea at its warming edges.

* Gulf Stream: few scientists believe it could be switched off completely this century but its collapse is a possibility.

* El Niño: the southern Pacific current may be affected by warmer seas, resulting in far-reaching climate change.

* Indian monsoon: relies on temperature difference between land and sea, which could be tipped offbalance by pollutants that cause localised cooling. This could lead to widespread crop failures and famine. “Could occur within a few years.”

* West African monsoon: in the past it has changed, causing the greening of the Sahara, but in the future it could cause droughts.

* Amazon rainforest: a warmer world and further deforestation may cause a collapse of the rain supporting this ecosystem.

* Boreal forests: cold-adapted trees of Siberia and Canada are dying as temperatures rise.

APPENDIX 5 to A Vision for Somerset as a Sustainable Community (South Somerset Climate Action)

Original article by Steve Connor:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climatechange/
scientists-identify-tipping-points-of-climatechange-
778027.html

 

Carbon Footprints - Worst Offenders

  • Return airline flight London - New York wipes out a year's worth of "acceptable" carbon footprinting.
  • But if you travel by ship, like the QE2, it wipes out seven years' worth.
  • But airline CO2 only accounts for 2% of UK CO2
  • Worldwide, forest logging and burning accounts for the single biggest human activities figure, 25% of the total world CO2.
  • Biofuels are a non-solution
  • Nobody's yet calculated the effect of increasing population on manmade CO2 increase
 
    But is CO2 a problem or a precious resource?
  • AGW science omits the far bigger quantities of CO2 that are "outgassing" and "sinking" naturally through the oceans, as consequence, not cause, of oceans warming and cooling - check the high correlation here
  • CO2 acidification is a non-issue, a scare story
  • It would be very good anyway to plant trees everywhere there's space, to absorb the extra CO2 nutrition now available through human effort.
  • Deserts could be greened faster than people realize.

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